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S_JUD_2023A 04/05/2023 01:36:45 PM Committee Summary

PUBLIC
STAFF SUMMARY OF MEETING
SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY
Date 04/05/2023
Attendance
Gardner X
Roberts X
Van Winkle X
Rodriguez X
Gonzales *
Time 01:36:45 PM to 08:44:59 PM
Place Old Supreme Court
This Meeting was called to order by Gonzales
This Report was prepared by Juliann Jenson
Hearing Items Action Taken
SB23-089 Postponed Indefinitely
SB23-194 Lay Over
HB23-1108 Lay Over
SB23-172 Amended, referred to Senate Appropriations

SB23-089 - Postponed Indefinitely


01:36:56 PM  

Senator Gardner, prime sponsor, recapped the March 22, 2023, hearing on Senate Bill 23-89,  the Uniform Family Law Arbitration Act.  He asked that the bill be postponed indefinitely. 



01:39:03 PM
Motion Postpone Senate Bill 23-089 indefinitely.
Moved Gardner
Seconded
Gardner Yes
Roberts Yes
Van Winkle No
Rodriguez Yes
Gonzales Excused
Final YES: 3   NO: 1   EXC: 1   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS



SB23-194 - Lay Over


01:39:17 PM  

Senator Hansen, prime sponsor, presented Senate Bill 23-194, concerning measures to improve the administration of domestic relations proceedings.

01:42:24 PM  

Charles Murphy, representing Pro Se Dads of Colorado, testified to amend the bill. He suggested adding members to the proposed judicial training advisory committee. 

Mrs. Morgan Tregenza, representing Mediation Association of Colorado, testified to amend the bill. She suggested adding members to the proposed committee.

Katie Smith, representing City & County of Denver - Denver City Attorney’s Office, testified to amend the bill. She raised concerns about due process provisions. 

Korey Elger, representing Colorado Department of Human Services, testified to amend the bill.  She suggested to amend adoption related provisions.

01:55:41 PM  

Terry Scanlon, representing the Colorado Judicial Department, testified in an amend position.

Carl Roberts, representing Colorado Resilience, testified in an amend position. He suggested broadening the membership of the proposed committee.  

Maha Kamal, representing Colorado Women's Bar Association, testified in an amend position.

Committee members asked questions about separation of powers and enforcement of training requirements.

 

02:11:30 PM  

Fran Fontana, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Judge Arkin, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. 

Ann Gushurst, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Committee members asked procedural questions, in addition to those about the training curriculum. 

 

02:36:09 PM  

Melissa Simonton, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Judge Jack Berryhill, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Dr. Jameson Darr, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

02:48:29 PM  

Laurence Gendelman, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Catherine Puttman, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

02:56:40 PM  

Colleen McManamon, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Dr. Kate McNamara, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Dr. Marian Camden, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

03:08:38 PM  

Helen Shreves, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Diana Powell, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Samera Habib, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

03:19:40 PM  

Kate Lewis, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Mrs Tracye Kieber, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Ms. Deborah Anderson, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

03:30:04 PM  

Richard J. Winkell, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.

 

Written testimony about the bill may be found in Attachment A.

03:33:49 PM  

The bill sponsor asked for the bill to be laid over to a later date.



HB23-1108 - Lay Over


03:34:54 PM  

Senators Gardner and Hansen, co-prime sponsors, presented House Bill 23-1108, concerning the creation of a task force to study victim and survivor awareness and responsiveness training requirements for judicial personnel, and, in connection therewith, making an appropriation. 

03:39:05 PM  

Courtney Sutton, representing Colorado Organization for Victim Assistance, testified in support of the bill.

Ms. Brie Franklin, representing Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assaul, testified in support of the bill.

Roshan Kalantar, representing Violence Free Colorado, testified in support of the bill.

03:50:23 PM  
Kazi Houston, representing Rocky Mountain Victim Law Center, testified in support of the bill.
03:53:30 PM  

Mr. Wes Wollenweber, representing Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) Section of Colorado Bar Association, testified to amend the bill.

Katie Rubano, representing themself, testified to amend the bill.

Terry Scanlon, representing Colorado courts, testified to amend the bill.

Rael LaPenta, representing Mothers Against Child Abuse, testified to amend the bill.

Committee discussion followed about the purview of the Judicial Department. 

 

04:03:37 PM  

Mrs Moira Sharkey, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Carl Roberts, representing Colorado Resilience, testified in opposition to the bill.

Charles Murphy, representing Pro Se Dads of Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill.

 

Written testimony submitted about the bill may be read in Attachment B. 

04:15:32 PM  

The bill sponsors asked to layover the bill to work on amendments.

 



SB23-172 - Amended, referred to Senate Appropriations


04:17:35 PM  

Senators Gonzales and Winter, co-prime sponsors, presented Senate Bill 23-172, concerning protections for Colorado workers against discriminatory employment practices, and, in connection therewith, making an appropriation.  The bill sponsors discussed modernizing standards surrounding harassment and other reasons for supporting the measure. 

 

 

04:29:56 PM  

Mrs Loren Furman, representing Colorado Chamber of Commerce, testified in opposition to the bill.

Ann Terry, representing Special District Association of Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill.

Mrs Brooke Colaizzi, representing Colorado Chamber of Commerce & Law Firm of Sherman & Howard, testified in opposition to the bill.

Ms. Dianne Criswell, representing Special District Association of Colorado, was available to answer committee questions.

Committee members asked questions about the definition of harassment in the bill.  Further discussion ensued about affirmative defenses, documenting oral complaints, non disclosure agreements, and potential litigation. 

04:57:37 PM  

Converation continued about legal thresholds, affirmative defense, and record keeping requirements. 

05:02:22 PM  

Ian Kalmanowitz, representing Colorado Plaintiff Employment Lawyers Association, testified in support of the bill.



Iris Halpern, representing Colorado Women's Bar Association (CWBA), testified in support of the bill.



Michelle Fox, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

The panel answered questions about affirmative defense language and oral complaints.  Further questions were asked about the severe or pervasive conduct standard, 

 

 

 

05:35:57 PM  

Jessica Kostelnik, representing Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce, testified in opposition to the bill.

Rachel Beck, representing Colorado Competitive Council, testified in opposition to the bill.

Jaclyn Terwey, representing Colorado Municipal League, testified in opposition to the bill.

David Dazlich, representing Colorado Springs Chamber & Economic Development Corporation, testified in opposition to the bill.

05:44:14 PM  

Ms. Ariel DeFazio, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Ms Sharron Pettiford, representing AFL-CIO, testified in support of the bill.

Ms. Jenifer Rodriguez, representing Farm Worker Division of Colorado Legal Services, testified in a neutral position on the bill.

Ms. Kelly McCullough, representing Disability Law Colorado, testified in support of the bill.

05:58:07 PM  

Diana Petrak, representing Colorado Policy Pathways, testified in opposition to the bill.

Mrs. Jamie George, representing Ute Water Conservancy District, testified in opposition to the bill.

David Zwisler, representing Northern Colorado Legislative Alliance, testified in opposition to the bill.

Mr. Tony Gagliardi, representing National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB), testified in opposition to the bill.

06:13:58 PM  

Jacquelynn Rich Fredericks, representing University of Northern Colorado, testified to amend the bill.

Ms. Lucia Padilla, representing Colorado Mountain College, testified in opposition to the bill.

Eric Bergman, representing Colorado Counties, Inc., testified to amend the bill.

Ellen Pomeroy, representing University of Colorado, testified to amend the bill.

Committee members asked questions about  higher education institutions and the bill's application.   Discussion followed about Title 9 and workplace harassment. 

 

 

06:51:15 PM  

Ms. Sophie Mariam, representing Colorado Fiscal Institute, testified in support of the bill.

Commissioner Jessica Campbell-Swanson, representing Counties & Commissioners Acting Together (CCAT) & Arapahoe County, testified in support of the bill.

Ms. Kelli Riley, representing themself, testified in support of the bill.

Committee members asked the panel questions about the fiscal note and related policies on a county level. 

 

07:13:43 PM  

Ginny Brown, representing Colorado Department of Regulatory Agencies, testified in opposition to the bill.

Sarah Mercer, representing Colorado Competitive Council - Legal Advisory Committee, testified to amend the bill.

Allan Lewis, representing Natural Grocers , testified in opposition to the bill.

Aubrey Elenis, representing the Civil Rights Division, testified in opposition to the bill.

Committee members asked questions about the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Comission (EEOC) and the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act (CADA).

 

 

07:39:38 PM  

Ms. Andrea Johnson, representing National Women's Law Center, testified to amend the bill.

Elizabeth Newman, representing CCASA, testified in support of the bill.

07:47:55 PM  

Ms. Ellen Buckley, representing Plaintiff Employment Lawyers Association, testified in support of the bill. She distributed a handout (Attachment C). 

Philip Shimel, representing COBALT, testified in support of the bill.

07:55:52 PM  

Rachel Ellis, representing Colorado Plaintiff Employment Lawyers Association, testified in support of the bill.

Mr. David Lichtenstein, representing Plaintiffs Employers Lawyers Association, testified in support of the bill.

Christine Breen, representing Plaintiff Employment Lawyers Association and the Colorado Women's Lobby, testified in support of the bill.

Committee members asked quesitons about the EEOC and higher education. 

Written testimony submitted about the bill may be found in Attachment D.

08:22:47 PM  

Senator Winter distributed and explained Amendment  L.001 regarding the definition of harassment (Attachment E).



08:24:41 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment E)
Moved Rodriguez
Seconded
Gardner
Roberts
Van Winkle
Rodriguez
Gonzales
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Pass Without Objection
08:24:57 PM  

Senator Winter distributed and explained Amendment L.002 about the affirmative defense and a designated depository (Attachment F).



08:25:48 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.002 (Attachment F)
Moved Gonzales
Seconded
Gardner
Roberts
Van Winkle
Rodriguez
Gonzales
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Pass Without Objection
08:26:07 PM  

Senator Winter distributed and explained Amendment L.003 about non- disclosure agreements (Attachment G).



08:26:43 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.003 (Attachment G)
Moved Gonzales
Seconded
Gardner
Roberts
Van Winkle
Rodriguez
Gonzales
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Pass Without Objection
08:27:01 PM  

The bill sponsors distributed and explained Amendment L.004 about employer record keeping (Attachment H). 



08:27:26 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.004 (Attachment H)
Moved Gonzales
Seconded
Gardner
Roberts
Van Winkle
Rodriguez
Gonzales
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Pass Without Objection
08:27:40 PM  

The bill sponsors distributed and explained Amendment L.014, which makes technical changes (Attachment I). 



08:28:00 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.014 (Attachment I)
Moved Gonzales
Seconded
Gardner
Roberts
Van Winkle
Rodriguez
Gonzales
YES: 0   NO: 0   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  Pass Without Objection
08:28:24 PM  

Senator Gardner  distributed and explained Amendment  L.007, which eliminates the severe or pervasive standard (Attachment J). 



08:31:30 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.007 (Attachment J)
Moved Gardner
Seconded
Gardner Yes
Roberts No
Van Winkle Yes
Rodriguez No
Gonzales No
YES: 2   NO: 3   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
08:31:48 PM  

Senator Gardner distributed and explained Amendment L.010 about affirmative defense (Attachment K). 



08:33:20 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.010 (Attachment K)
Moved Gardner
Seconded
Gardner Yes
Roberts No
Van Winkle Yes
Rodriguez No
Gonzales No
YES: 2   NO: 3   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
08:33:40 PM  

Senator Garder distributed and explained Amendment L.012 about changes to non disclosure agreements (Attachment L).



08:38:58 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.012 (Attachment L)
Moved Gardner
Seconded
Gardner Yes
Roberts No
Van Winkle Yes
Rodriguez No
Gonzales No
YES: 2   NO: 3   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
08:39:16 PM  

The bill sponsors made closing comments. 

Committee members made closing comments. 



08:44:52 PM
Motion Refer Senate Bill 23-172, as amended, to the Committee on Appropriations.
Moved Gonzales
Seconded
Gardner No
Roberts Yes
Van Winkle No
Rodriguez Yes
Gonzales Yes
Final YES: 3   NO: 2   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS


08:44:59 PM   The committee adjourned.






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