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s_jud_2017a_2017-04-10t13:35:25z3 Hearing Summary

Date: 04/10/2017

Location: RM 271

Final

BILL SUMMARY for SB17-281



SENATE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY


Votes: View--> Action Taken:
Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment H). The motion f

Refer Senate Bill 17-281 to the Committee of the W
FAIL

PASS







02:43 PM



The committee recessed.





02:58 PM -- SB17-281



Senator Neville and Senator Marble, co-prime sponsors, presented Senate Bill 17-281, concerning holding Colorado government accountable for creating sanctuary jurisdiction policies. Senator Marble explained the bill's provisions. Senator Neville discussed differences between SB 17-281 and other bills. He responded to questions concerning the work of U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and the definition of "sanctuary jurisdiction." Senator Neville discussed the bill in the context of court actions on laws in other states.



03:08 PM --
Mr. Marat Kudlis, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. He discussed the death of his son that was caused by an immigrant. He responded to a question concerning compensation received following his son's death.



03:17 PM --
Ms. Christine Goodman, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She stated support for SB 17-281 and opposition to HB 17-1230. She discussed her experience with the death of her husband, and her opinions on illegal immigration and law enforcement practices. Committee members commented.



03:25 PM --
Ms. Chris Lazarus, representing herself, testified in support of SB 17-281. She discussed her son's death from an accidental drug overdose.



03:30 PM --
Mr. John Sampson, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. He discussed circumstances of specific individuals apprehended by law enforcement, and federal immigration law, generally. He stated opposition to HB 17-1230 and responded to a question concerning Denver law enforcement practices.



03:41 PM --
Ms. Patricia DeJong, representing herself, testified in support of SB 17-281. She discussed immigration enforcement, and circumstances at a school where she works.



03:46 PM --
Ms. Eleanor Cabell, representing Indivisible Colorado and the Colorado Organization for Latina Opportunity and Reproductive Rights, testified in opposition to the bill. She stated that the bill affects civil liberties. Ms. Cabell responded to a question concerning the bill's impact on public safety. She further responded to questions concerning data from her testimony, and the constitutionality of the bill. Ms. Cabell responded to a question concerning a specific study.



Senator Kagan commented on Fourth Amendment jurisprudence. Senator Neville commented on the bill. Discussion ensued on this point.



04:02 PM --
Mr. Gray Buckley, representing the Retired Peace Officers of Colorado, testified in support of the bill. He discussed law enforcement practices concerning immigration law. He responded to questions concerning law enforcement practices in Colorado and the need for SB 17-281.



04:06 PM --
Mr. Chris Johnson, representing the County Sheriffs of Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Johnson explained working with ICE, and its predecessor agency, as a county sheriff. He also discussed deportation practices and their effectiveness, liability for law enforcement agencies, and the constitutionality of the bill. Mr. Johnson responded to a question concerning constitutional issues and court decisions. He responded to questions concerning the county sheriffs' position on the bill, and the effect of the bill on public safety and other law enforcement activities. Mr. Johnson responded to questions concerning the process of decision making by the County Sheriffs of Colorado. Mr. Johnson continued to respond to questions concerning the effect of the bill on public safety and law enforcement activities.



04:17 PM --
Ms. Joy Athanasiou, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill; she also stated her support for HB 17-1230. Ms. Athanasiou discussed federal law concerning immigration, and compliance therewith. She discussed the work of ICE, and the characteristics of sanctuary cities.



04:23 PM --
Mr. Christopher Lasch, representing himself, testified in opposition to SB 17-281. He discussed issues of local control and federal responsibility concerning immigration enforcement. Mr. Lasch further discussed motivations for the bill. He also stated his support for HB 17-1230. He responded to several committee and sponsor questions.





04:34 PM



Senator Neville and Senator Marble commented. Mr. Lasch responded to questions concerning U.S. Supreme Court decisions relating to coercive federal funding, and to the impact of the bill on public safety.



04:39 PM --
Ms. JM Fay, representing herself, testified in support of SB 17-281. Senator Neville read Ms. Fay's testimony.



04:43 PM --
Ms. Carole Ramsay, representing Indivisible Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. She discussed victims of crimes perpetrated by those who are not immigrants. She responded to questions concerning fear. Ms. Ramsay provided her testimony in support of HB 17-1230.



04:50 PM --
Ms. Allison Daley, representing Colorado Counties, Inc., testified on SB 17-281. She stated concerns with the bill. Ms. Daley responded to questions about county concerns, and specific provisions of the bill. Senator Marble commented.



05:00 PM --
Mr. Rick Block's testimony was submitted to the committee (Attachment F).



17SenateJud0410AttachF.pdf17SenateJud0410AttachF.pdf



05:01 PM --
Ms. Jessica LeRoux, testified in opposition to the bill. She discussed a report concerning sanctuary economies, including benefits offered, and enforcement of federal law. Ms. LeRoux presented her testimony in support of HB 17-1230, but expressed concerns regarding the bill's title.



05:06 PM --
Mr. Ron Sloan, representing the Colorado Association of Chiefs of Police, testified in opposition to SB 17-281. He discussed the work of state and local law enforcement in enforcing federal immigration law. Mr. Sloan responded to a question from Senator Neville concerning law enforcement. He responded to questions from the committee concerning the effect of the bill on public safety.



05:13 PM --
Ms. Joan Poston, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She commented on people operating within the law, her dislike for Denver, and the causes of her friends' drug addiction.



05:17 PM --
Mr. Kyle Huelsman, representing the Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition, testified in opposition to the bill. He discussed legal concerns and court cases concerning holding prisoners under certain circumstances. Mr. Huelsman responded to a question from Senator Neville concerning detention of persons. Senator Neville commented; Mr. Huelsman responded. Mr. Huelsman also responded to committee questions.



05:24 PM --
Mr. Eddie Soto, representing Servicios de la Raza, testified in opposition to the bill. He discussed legal challenges to state detentions of certain persons, and court decisions concerning federal authority. Mr. Soto discussed deportation. He provided testimony in support of HB 17-1230.



Mr. John Sampson, who testified earlier in the meeting, provided information to the committee (Attachment G).



17SenateJud0410AttachG.pdf17SenateJud0410AttachG.pdf



05:29 PM --
Ms. Pantea Beigi, representing herself, testified in opposition to SB 17-281, and in support of HB 17-1230. She discussed the definition of "sanctuary city," and her reasons for opposing SB 17-281. She explained the effect of that bill on tourism.



Ms. Beigi also provided her testimony in support of HB 17-1230. She provided her reasons for supporting the bill, including the consequences of existing immigration policy and rhetoric. She responded to committee questions concerning fearmongering and racism. Senator Neville asked a question concerning the protection of people.





05:41 PM



Ms. Beigi responded to a question from Senator Marble concerning whether the bill is racist. Discussion between the two continued. Senator Fields commented.



05:46 PM --
Mr. Kian Ipakchi-Saiy, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Ipakchi-Saiy explained his German-Iranian heritage, and his relatives' experiences. He discussed recent federal orders, and experiences of his friends. He stated support for HB 17-1230.



05:51 PM --
Ms. Jasmin Ipakchi-Saiy, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill. She discussed her experience as an immigrant. She stated support for HB 17-1230.



Mr. Kian Ipakchi-Saiy responded to questions concerning the effect SB 17-281. He provided his testimony in support of HB 17-1230.



05:56 PM --
Ms. Miranda Glasbergen, representing herself, testified in opposition to SB 17-281 and in support of HB 17-1230. She stated her reasons for opposing SB 17-281. As it concerns HB 17-1230, she provided her perspective as a naturalized citizen.



06:00 PM --
Ms. Dorothea Steinke, representing herself, testified on SB 17-281. She discussed the effect of federal immigration orders, as she understands them. She provided her testimony in support of HB 17-1230.



06:03 PM --
Mr. Abdur-Rahim Ali, representing the Northeast Denver Islamic Center, testified in support of HB 17-1230. He explained his reasons for supporting the bill, and provided information on the history of Muslims in America.





06:06 PM



Senator Fields distributed and explained amendment L.001 (Attachment H).



17SenateJud0410AttachH.pdf17SenateJud0410AttachH.pdf

BILL: SB17-281
TIME: 06:09:44 PM
MOVED: Fields
MOTION: Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment H). The motion failed on a vote of 2-3.
SECONDED:
VOTE
Coram
No
Fields
Yes
Kagan
Yes
Cooke
No
Gardner
No
YES: 2 NO: 3 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL





06:10 PM



Senator Neville provided closing remarks on the bill. Senator Marble provided closing remarks on the bill. Senator Neville provided additional remarks, as did Senator Marble.





06:21 PM



Committee members explained their positions on the bill.

BILL: SB17-281
TIME: 06:29:06 PM
MOVED: Gardner
MOTION: Refer Senate Bill 17-281 to the Committee of the Whole. The motion passed on a vote of 3-2.
SECONDED:
VOTE
Coram
Yes
Fields
No
Kagan
No
Cooke
Yes
Gardner
Yes
Final YES: 3 NO: 2 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS














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