H_SA_2024A 02/26/2024 02:18:49 PM Committee Summary PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGHOUSE COMMITTEE ON STATE, CIVIC, MILITARY, & VETERANS AFFAIRS Date 02/26/2024 Attendance Amabile X Bottoms X Bradley * Brown X DeGraaf X English X Epps * Ricks X Rutinel * Boesenecker X Woodrow X Time 02:18:49 PM to 06:59:26 PM Place LSB A This Meeting was called to order by Woodrow This Report was prepared by Amanda King Hearing Items Action Taken hHB24-1147 Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole hHB24-1279 Postponed Indefinitely hHB24-1177 Referred to the Committee of the Whole hHB24-1150 Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole HB24-1147 - Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment A http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/DEE6F0466250...$File/Attachment A.pdf?OpenElement Attachment A.pdf Attachment B http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/18DDDBB64670...$File/Attachment B.pdf?OpenElement Attachment B.pdf Attachment C http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/B1C6D2596EA0...$File/Attachment C.pdf?OpenElement Attachment C.pdf Attachment D http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/E8FB050C3F82...$File/Attachment D.pdf?OpenElement Attachment D.pdf Attachment E http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/27EC8F5AD151...$File/Attachment E.pdf?OpenElement Attachment E.pdf Attachment F http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/D001C702E3F2...$File/Attachment F.pdf?OpenElement Attachment F.pdf Attachment G http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/B5811F2BD4B3...$File/Attachment G.pdf?OpenElement Attachment G.pdf Attachment H http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/9946FD7BEB0D...$File/Attachment H.pdf?OpenElement Attachment H.pdf 02:19:02 PM Representative Titone and Representative Joseph, co-prime bill sponsors, presented House Bill 24-1147, concerning the use of a deepfake in a communication related to a candidate for elective office. The bill creates new regulations and penalties for using artificial intelligence and deepfake generated content related to communications about candidates for elected office. Representative Titone and Representative Joseph responded to questions from the committee and provided a handout to the committee (Attachment A). 02:32:44 PM Victor Bencomo, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Robert Lindgren, representing the Colorado AFL-CIO, testified to amend the bill. Andrew Brandt, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Ruthie Barko, representing TechNet, testified to amend the bill. Justin Sasso, representing the Colorado Broadcasters Association, testified to amend the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. 02:57:43 PM Chris Beall, representing the Colorado Department of State, testified in support of the bill. Aly Belknap, representing Colorado Common Cause, testified in support of the bill. Maggie Gomez, representing the State Innovation Exchange, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Craig Holman, representing Public Citizen, testified in support of the bill. Mayor Pro Tem Nicole Speer, representing the City of Boulder, testified in support of the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. Written testimony was provided to the committee (Attachment B). 03:23:35 PM The committee recessed. 03:26:57 PM The committee came back to order. 03:27:56 PM Representative Joseph explained amendment L.001 (Attachment C). 03:29:32 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment C). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Amabile Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:29:33 PM Representative Titone explained amendment L.003 (Attachment D). 03:30:12 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.003 (Attachment D). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:30:13 PM Representative Joseph explained amendment L.004 (Attachment E). 03:31:34 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.004 (Attachment E). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:31:35 PM Representative Titone explained amendment L.005 (Attachment F). 03:33:15 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.005 (Attachment F). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Yes Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf No English Yes Epps Yes Ricks Yes Rutinel Yes Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes YES: 8 NO: 3 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 03:33:16 PM Representative Titone explained amendment L.006 (Attachment G). 03:34:44 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.006 (Attachment G). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:34:45 PM Representative Joseph explained amendment L.008 (Attachment H). Representative Titone responded to questions from the committee about amendment L.008. 03:36:42 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.008 (Attachment H). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:36:42 PM Representative Titone and Representative Joseph made concluding remarks to the committee. Committee members commented on the bill. 03:45:12 PM Motion Refer House Bill 24-1147, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Yes Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf No English Yes Epps Yes Ricks Yes Rutinel Yes Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes Final YES: 8 NO: 3 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS HB24-1279 - Postponed Indefinitely Attachment Tag File Name Attachment I http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/4C62EB7FE9A4...$File/Attachment I.pdf?OpenElement Attachment I.pdf Attachment J http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/3D9251F49196...$File/Attachment J.pdf?OpenElement Attachment J.pdf Attachment K http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/3181CB7F21A3...$File/Attachment K.pdf?OpenElement Attachment K.pdf Attachment L http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/521AF0D1A663...$File/Attachment L.pdf?OpenElement Attachment L.pdf Attachment M http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/2CBE412AC8C8...$File/Attachment M.pdf?OpenElement Attachment M.pdf 03:45:17 PM Representative DeGraaf, prime bill sponsor, presented House Bill 24-1279, concerning the use of vote tracking numbers in elections. The bill requires the use of distributed ledger technology in elections and establishes voter eligibility verification systems for in person and mail in voting. Representative DeGraaf responded to questions from the committee. 04:07:06 PM Aly Belknap, representing Colorado Common Cause, testified in opposition to the bill. Caleb Thornton, representing the Colorado Department of State, testified in opposition to the bill. Martha Tierney, representing America Votes and the Colorado Democratic Party, testified in opposition to the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. 04:19:03 PM Tanya Regan, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Spencer Roberts, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Frank Cotten, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Donna LaBelle, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Margarita Osterman, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. 04:45:23 PM Laura Wilber, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Candice Stutzriem, representing the Republican Party in El Paso County, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Brian Marshall, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Christy Fidura, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. Written testimony was provided to the committee (Attachment I). 05:02:30 PM Representative DeGraaf explained amendments L.001 and L.002 (Attachments J and K). 05:04:00 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment J). Moved DeGraaf Seconded Bradley Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 05:04:28 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.002 (Attachment K). Moved DeGraaf Seconded Ricks Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Ricks Rutinel Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 05:04:29 PM Representative DeGraaf explained amendment L.003 (Attachment L). 05:07:11 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.003 (Attachment L). Moved DeGraaf Seconded Boesenecker Amabile No Bottoms Yes Bradley Yes Brown No DeGraaf No English No Epps Excused Ricks Yes Rutinel Excused Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes YES: 5 NO: 4 EXC: 2 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 05:07:12 PM Representative DeGraaf explained amendment L.004 (Attachment M). 05:09:46 PM Representative DeGraaf responded to questions from the committee about amendment L.004. 05:10:53 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.004 (Attachment M). Moved DeGraaf Seconded Bottoms Amabile Bottoms Bradley Brown DeGraaf English Epps Excused Ricks Rutinel Excused Boesenecker Woodrow YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 2 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 05:10:54 PM Representative DeGraaf made concluding remarks about the bill. Committee members commented on the bill. 05:17:25 PM Motion Refer House Bill 24-1279, as amended, to the Committee on Finance. Moved DeGraaf Seconded Bradley Amabile No Bottoms Yes Bradley Yes Brown No DeGraaf Yes English No Epps Excused Ricks No Rutinel Excused Boesenecker No Woodrow No YES: 3 NO: 6 EXC: 2 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 05:17:49 PM Motion Postpone House Bill 24-1279 indefinitely using a reversal of the previous roll call. There was no objection to the use of the reverse roll call, therefore, the bill was postponed indefinitely. Moved Boesenecker Seconded Brown Amabile Yes Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf No English Yes Epps Excused Ricks Yes Rutinel Excused Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes Final YES: 6 NO: 3 EXC: 2 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS HB24-1177 - Referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment N http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/9791CEFE2D73...$File/Attachment N.pdf?OpenElement Attachment N.pdf Attachment O http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/A84C4128A6DC...$File/Attachment O.pdf?OpenElement Attachment O.pdf Attachment P http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/43978DC6EB20...$File/Attachment P.pdf?OpenElement Attachment P.pdf 05:17:55 PM Representative Marshall, prime bill sponsor, presented House Bill 24-1177, concerning the modification of county commissioner elections in counties with populations of 70,000 or more. The bill requires counties with populations of 70,000 or more to have five county commissioners, with at least three elected by voters of the candidateâs district. Representative Marshall provided a handout to the committee (Attachment N). He responded to questions from the committee. 05:32:58 PM Jennifer Iversen, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Aly Belknap, representing Colorado Common Cause, testified in support of the bill. Amanda Gonzalez, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Catherine Lees, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Angela Thomas, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. 05:48:11 PM Kelly Mayr, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Jen Samano, representing the ACLU of Colorado, testified in support of the bill. Celeste Landry, representing the League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified to amend the bill. 05:55:58 PM County Commissioner Jody Shadduck-McNally, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Nick DeSalvo, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. County Commissioner Eppie Griego, representing Pueblo County, testified in opposition to the bill. County Commissioner Zach Swearingen, representing Pueblo County, testified in opposition to the bill. Eric Bergman, representing Colorado Counties, Inc., testified in opposition to the bill and provided a handout to the committee (Attachment O). Kat McManus, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. Written testimony was provided to the committee (Attachment P). 06:18:33 PM Representative Marshall made concluding remarks on the bill. Committee members commented on the bill. 06:34:12 PM Motion Refer House Bill 24-1177 to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Epps Seconded Ricks Amabile No Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf Yes English Yes Epps Yes Ricks Yes Rutinel Yes Boesenecker No Woodrow Yes Final YES: 7 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS HB24-1150 - Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment Q http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/C4424F0BF085...$File/Attachment Q.pdf?OpenElement Attachment Q.pdf Attachment R http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2024A/commsumm.nsf/0/575ED4876E75...$File/Attachment R.pdf?OpenElement Attachment R.pdf 06:34:18 PM Representative Garcia and Representative Parenti, co-prime bill sponsors, presented House Bill 24-1150, concerning false slates of presidential electors. The bill makes it a crime to create or serve on a false slate of presidential electors and a crime of perjury to falsely swear or attest to the oath of a presidential elector. 06:37:59 PM Chris Beall, representing the Colorado Department of State, testified in support of the bill. Aly Belknap, representing Colorado Common Cause, testified in support of the bill. Martha Tierney, representing America Votes and the Colorado Democratic Party, testified in support of the bill. Peggy Leech, representing the League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified in support of the bill. Jen Samano, representing the ACLU of Colorado, testified to amend the bill. The panelists responded to questions from the committee. 06:53:10 PM Representative Garcia explained amendments L.004 and L.005 (Attachments Q and R). 06:55:30 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.004 (Attachment Q). Moved Brown Seconded Rutinel Amabile Yes Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf No English Yes Epps Excused Ricks Yes Rutinel Yes Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes YES: 7 NO: 3 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 06:56:39 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.005 (Attachment R). Moved Boesenecker Seconded Ricks Amabile Yes Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf No English Yes Epps Excused Ricks Yes Rutinel Yes Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes YES: 7 NO: 3 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 06:56:40 PM Representative Garcia and Representative Parenti provided concluding remarks on the bill. Committee members commented on the bill. 06:59:12 PM Motion Refer House Bill 24-1150, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Boesenecker Seconded Rutinel Amabile Yes Bottoms No Bradley No Brown Yes DeGraaf No English Yes Epps Excused Ricks Yes Rutinel Yes Boesenecker Yes Woodrow Yes Final YES: 7 NO: 3 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 06:59:26 PM The committee adjourned.